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This page last revised Wednesday, July 8th,  2009.  Happy Solstice!!  The following will be posted shortly on this page: 

Apparently the July and August, 2007 LSB meetings were not recorded.  We will check into this. 

September 5th and September 18th LSB meetings. 

October 17th and October 31st candidate's forums. 

October 31st LSB meeting. 

   We are principally notifying people through EMail lists; however some people rely on the present website, so that it too should be kept up to date.  Therefore the videos for February 7,  February 20 and March 21 are being added to this website now.  That said, we will no longer try to provide explanatory notes or information on this website. 

   Instead, we suggest for further information on meetings you read from the following online sources, around the date of the meeting, with special attention to messages titled "Meeting Report" or similar: 

LISTENERFORUMS.NET
is an anonymous bulletin board that for some purposes is the best source available.  Membership is not required; anyone can read and post. 

NEWPACIFICA
is the largest of the discussion groups (listserves) about Pacifica or WBAI.  It is easy to join and post-- all you need is a sincere interest in Pacifica/ WBAI. Go to http://groups.yahoo.com to join any of the groups mentioned here. 

PACIFICARADIOWAVES
WBAIBYLAWS
WBAIELECTIONS
are other related Yahoo groups with varying degrees of difficulty to join.  And there are other groups on Google and other hosts. 

GLIB.com
is the website of R. Paul Martin, program host and Opposition Staff Delegate to the WBAI-LSB.  He writes commentaries on most recent meetings, and he keeps attendance records for all Board meetings!

JUSTICEUNITY.org
is the website for the Majority at the Board, called the Justice and Unity Coalition. 

WBAI.net
(Not an official Pacifica Radio website) 
is the website for the Minority or Opposition coalition, called Friends of WBAI. 

FRIENDSOFWBAI
is the official listserve of-- you guessed it!-- Friends of WBAI. 

212-465-7562
is the phone number for Friends of Wbai. 

212-591-2111
is the phone number for Justice and Unity. 

INFO@JUSTICEUNITY.ORG 
is the EMail address for Justice and Unity.  Friends of WBAI has no official EMail address at the present time.  However you may contact us informally through Hobces@Yahoo.com and we will try to answer your questions.  If you write, please put WBAI somewhere in the header.  Thanks! 

Here is where you can subscribe to FRIENDSOFWBAI directly: 

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These are the videos of the WBAI Local Station Board meetings.  Sometimes Public Comment, sometimes the entire meeting, sometimes special selections.  There are two Parts, all on the same long webpage:  THE RECORDINGS is simply the videos you can play.  DISCUSSION OF THE RECORDINGS is the discussion of or commentary on the recordings, however long.  You may want to open two copies of the page, one to view the videos and the other to read the writing on the wall. 

Public comment is not included in the minutes of meetings; in fact it is being and has been actively suppressed, so here are the unsung heroines and heroes of peace and unity as well as of belligerence and disinformation.  Enjoy! 

The October 22nd meeting in Nyack was the first to be recorded; every meeting has been recorded since then (but not necessarily posted on this website) except the November 1, 2005 meeting.


THE  RECORDINGS


October 22 2005, 99 minutes. 
  

 


November 22 2005, 26 minutes.
 



December 20 2005, 2 minutes. 




  
January 11 2006, 186 minutes. 




  
March 16 2006, 130 minutes.


 
 
April 25 2006, 60 minutes.


 
 
June 2-4 2006 Meeting of the Pacifica National Board (PNB), 97 minutes.  See below. 





June 13 2006, 17 minutes.
 

 

July 11 2006, Parts 1 and 2:
 
Part 1, 41 minutes. 
 

 
Part 2, 12 minutes. 
 



August 7 2006, 18 minutes. 
 

 

September 7 2006, 29 minutes. 


 
October 11 2006, 188 minutes. Temporary version, for collective revision.



November 29 2006, 71 minutes.   Meet Mr. Adams!  Induction of Robert Scott Adams, the new iGM (Interim General Manager) of WBAI into the fiery busom of love and deadly conflict that is Our Local Board!  See below for more comments and information. 




December 27 2006, 174 minutes.




January 9 2007.

Peter's camera, 35 minutes.




Albert's camera, 19 minutes.






February 7 2007, 149 minutes.





February 7 2007, PUBLIC COMMENT, 42 minutes.





February 20 2007, 146 minutes.





March 21 2007, 143 minutes.






April 26 2007, LSB Radio Report Committee, 108 minutes.






April 30 2007, 154 minutes.






May 2 2007, LSB Radio Report Committee, 166 minutes.






May 23 2007, LSB Radio Report Committee, 159 minutes.






June 23 2007, LSB Radio Report Committee, Part 1, 185 minutes.






September 25 2007, 120 minutes.







DISCUSSION OF RECORDINGS


The October 22nd 2005 meeting
was interesting and unusual because the Minority Caucus were absent; hence the Majority people could say and do anything they wanted.  The meeting was very relaxed, except for slight ripples of the tranquillity coming mostly from one member of the Public, James Ross, Ph.D. 
 
The public comment session was longer than usual-- officially it is limited to 30 minutes.  It would have been interesting to include the Committee Reports section of the meeting, as these statements were also unopposed.  The most striking thing about this part of the meeting was that, with the exception of the Management Evaluation Committee having completed its survey form, none of the committees seemed to have anything substantial to report. 

The November 22nd 2005 meeting.   Oops!  Evidently we didn't write anything about this meeting.  More to come. 

The December 20th meeting.  Evidently the only public comment in this miniscule-- two minutes'!-- public comment was Margareth Dominique recommending that people who came to the meeting to make a report be heard early so they would not have to wait.  In the second clip (24 seconds) the Chair (staff member Vajra Kilgour) confirms that there was little or no public comment.  We were grateful for this confirmation because we had spent considerable time searching, finding nothing but the one comment. 

Notice that Cerene Roberts (listener member of the Board) begins to comment on Margareth's suggestion but then stops herself, because during public comment board members are not allowed to reply.  In the previous public comment (November 22nd), the woman in red  (starting at 05:50) noticed the same thing when no one from the Board answered her questions. 

The January 11th meeting included the election of delegates to the Pacifica National Board (PNB), the most important function of the Local Station Boards, and the Minority brought up the issue of remarks made on the air on August 21, 2005 which were thought to be insulting to Listener board member Steve Brown.  Public comment will be posted shortly.  [2007-05-03:  No the whole meeting was posted, not just public comment.  However for those who want to see it, our notes say that the public comment is located at 1:56:00 - 2:03:14, and the second public comment period starts at 2:01:XX (these figures look somewhat contradictory, but try them out anyway.)] 

As of today, August 26th 2006 and without objection we will begin to include the reports of R. Paul Martin, programmer of Back of the Book on alternate Monday mornings from 1-3 a.m. and Staff delegate to the Local Station Board (LSB).  Our comments and explanations appear in square brackets "[]." 

This one started 44 minutes late because the faction didn't show up for 40 minutes, and then they all showed up.  [The Board held the annual election for Pacifica National Board (PNB) members (called "directors") by single replacement choice voting.  The part of the meeting where they did this was called the "delegates' meeting," as for some purposes this is the status of the local board members.]  The following will [become directors on] the PNB [, the supreme governing body of the Pacifica Foundation and the five local stations-- see notes on June 2-4th recording for listing of the local stations]: 

Listeners:
. Staff:
Ray LaForest . Bob Lederer
Patty Heffley . .
Lisa V. Davis . .

[All of the above are members of the majority coalition except for Patty Heffley.] 

And so the LSB meeting started an hour late. There was a dispute over the �suspended� member [Paul DeRienzo].

The LSB passed a motion asking for a computer, phone and copy machine code for the LSB. That last part I put in because the LSB is always using Staff codes for its photocopies.

The General Manager Search Sub-committee meets January 26. Turns out that the non-faction member on it was not consulted at all about when to meet. The faction operative in charge of polling members said that she had that member's phone number and had fully intended to call him. Well, of course that makes it okay.

Carolyn Birden, Chair of the PNB Elections Committee had to fight to get her report put on the agenda. Her committee is looking into the problem of the rigged Staff elections at WBAI. No wonder the faction didn't want it on the agenda.

The LSB passed a motion directing that the audio from the PD's August 21, 2005, �Substitute Report to the Listener,� which aired in the Wake Up Call slot, be sent to the Pacifica Human Resources Director who's supposed to determine if the PD's name calling endangered the Pacifica Foundation.


The April 25th meeting (the second to be posted to this website) was quite tumultuous-- as much of a contrast as it could be to the serenity and insulation from controversy of the Nyack meeting.  We arrived about 8 p.m., so that the episode where Bob Lederer's dismissal was discussed was not included.  There was terrific wrangling over whether Interim General Manager (iGM) Indra Hardat would be allowed to answer a question from Ed Marshall, who was extremely belligerent and peremptory, and obviously biased against Indra in his question.  He also insulted Steve Brown.  His question was about Indra's experience and qualifications relevant to managing a radio station. 

First Indra helpfully got up to answer the question, but Vajra Kilgour, the LSB chairperson, told her to sit down again.  Then Vajra changed her mind so that Indra got up again like a Jack-in-the-box, and sat down again when the Chair finally ruled that questioners could only speak rhetorically, not demand answers or specify which person should give those answers. 

This kind of harrassment is typical for Majority sympathizers.  Martin Attarian is a more frequent speaker who is very, very fond of seeing how far he can go in insulting R. Paul Martin and Steve Brown both personally and professionally.  Nothing of the kind comes from Minority sympathizers (excepting of course the immense tirades of Paul DeRienzo-- who, come to think of it, is not a member of the public). 

Of course, the Board as a sovereign body has the power to limit public comment just as it has the power to protect itself in all ways both physically and emotionally.  In fact, the First Board prohibited abusive public comment, just as the National Board does now and has always done.  It was only with the accession of the current Majority Coalition (Justice and Unity) to power in the Second Board that all restrictions were lifted. 

After public comment was over the Interim General Manager finally answered the question about her qualifications, emphasizing that she was asked to become the Interim General Manager (iGM), it wasn't her idea, and so presumably her qualifications were satisfactory to all concerned. 

The June 2-4th recording was of a meeting of the Pacifica National Board (PNB), not the WBAI Local Station Board.  We were able to record some of it because it occurred in our city, New York.  Four times a year the National Board meets in person; the rest of the meetings are by telephone conference.  The in-person meetings alternate between the five stations that make up the Pacifica Radio Network, KPFA in Berkeley, KPFK in Los Angeles, KPFT in Houston, WPFW in Washington DC and WBAI in New York.  To date, we are America's only large public radio network where the members can vote for elected representatives who meet and influence station policy! 

The recording is in three parts, public comment on Friday night of 33 minutes, WBAI report by Interim General Manager (iGM) Indra Hardat on Saturday evening of 40 minutes, and public comment on Sunday afternoon of 25 minutes.  The sections are separated by a four-second black screen.  We have much more information on this historic meeting, so we hope to add to these notes. 

The June 13th meeting included some very spirited controversy between speakers Martin Attarian, Monroe Litman, Mike Beasley and Andrea Fishman.  Monroe is the most frequent and best known on-air caller to WBAI and probably other stations; these videos allow us to see what he looks like. 

Note that at this meeting Martin Attarian manifestly disagrees with the majority slate on the desirability of a "Witch Hunt Committee" to ferret out bias and racism among local station boards (LSBs), a departure from his apparent party-line agreement with the incumbents on every other issue. 

The July 11th meeting included a committee-of-the-whole discussion of the budget.  Program Director Bernard White, Arts Director Cathy Davis and Indra Hardat were invited to the meeting but only Bernard White was able to attend. 

The August 7th meeting.  We of MWS Video cannot comment helpfully on the budget discussions, but other highlights included a prepared speech about the Waivers Committee by Andrea Fishman and the p
ortentious passage of a NOTE (of some kind) from Cerene Roberts (Listener delegate) to Vajra Kilgour (Staff delegate - Chair) during that commentary.

We do surmise that the budget discussions were less than complete (correct us if we are wrong), and that very little of the Board's business was accomplished-- including, under New Business, the motion to discuss Bob Lederer's (Staff delegate) layoff from his position on the WBAI staff. 


R. Paul Martin's comments on this meeting:

WBAI LSB Meeting � August 7, 2006

The forty ninth WBAI Local Station Board (LSB) meeting was held on Monday, August 7, 2006, at 6:30 PM at Local 1199's Bread and Roses Art Gallery, 310 W. 43rd St. in Manhattan. This is not an official Web page of the LSB.

This meeting had been scheduled to start at 7:00 PM because so many LSB members arrive so late that we never even start at 7:00 PM. So the faction's logic was that starting half an hour later than our usual start time would give people a chance to arrive for the meeting on time. That didn't make sense when the motion was passed and it didn't work out in reality, either. That's why when this motion to start at 7:00 PM came up at the last meeting I amended it to say that if we didn't start by 8:00 PM the meeting would be canceled.

This meeting started 52 minutes late, at 7:52 PM. It could have started by about 7:35 or 7:40 at the latest but the faction was staying out of the room to avoid starting the meeting. I think that they didn't have a majority and didn't want to start the meeting without one. Last August they didn't have such a good time when they were shy of a majority.

So the faction currently in charge started out wanting to put an executive session on the agenda. I pointed out that the bylaws require that notice of an executive session be included with the notice of the meeting, and this proposal for an executive session was only made during the meeting. I recall that this provision of the Pacifica bylaws, which says, "In the event that all or a portion of a meeting is closed, the LSB shall indicate in its notice of said meeting that the meeting or a part of it shall be closed.," was brought to my attention at a meeting of the WBAI LSB on November 19, 2004, when I chaired the meeting and Bob Lederer himself pointed this provision out when a member tried to put an executive session on the agenda of that meeting.

We wrangled over this and the Chair ruled that the LSB could break this rule. I moved to appeal this ruling of the Chair and of course the faction majority voted that the Chair was right. Bob Lederer also voted that we could violate the rule which he'd cited at a previous meeting.

I made a point of order that a majority of the LSB had just voted to violate the bylaws.

So then they kept trying to put an executive session on the agenda. But the faction members pushing this executive session said that they wanted Pacifica Executive Director Greg Guma in on the meeting, that they'd call him up and have him on the phone. But there was a question of whether or not he'd even be available.

During this time the entire executive session idea metamorphosed into a teleconference meeting the next night, since the Executive director couldn't be reached. People pointed out that we didn't know if he could make it the next night, August 8, either. The faction members amended their motion to say that the LSB would go ahead with a meeting whether the Executive Director was available or not. This was odd, given that they'd been citing the need for the LSB to talk to him as the reason for the executive session meeting.

It was then pointed out that any special meeting called with less than 10 days notice required that all LSB members be informed of the meeting at least 24 hours in advance. So we had the rather comical situation where the time for the August 8, executive session teleconference meeting kept getting pushed back. Eventually it was decided that the meeting would begin at 9:40 PM on August 8. Yeah, that's a good time to start a meeting.

And in response to a question the Chair stated that the member who has been illegally suspended for six months, and whose suspension was then about to enter its 18th month, would not be allowed on the teleconference call and would not be notified. This ruling of the chair was appealed and of course the faction voted to uphold it by a vote of 8 to 7.

The new Local elections Supervisor for the WBAI listening area was there and we voted to give her some time on the agenda to speak to the LSB and those who attended the meeting.

Her name is Attieno Davis and she gave us a little speech. Monroe disrupted it and she went over and did what she could to deal with him. Maybe she doesn't know that he's nuts.

She said that she was human and that on occasion she'd stumble and she was relying on all of us to help her when she does. Monroe wasn't exactly shutting up and so Marion Borenstein went over and stood next to Monroe with a posture that seemed to say that she was intending to menace him. Sarah Founders then joined her in looming over Monroe. This was, of course, out of order but the Chair said nothing.

Ms. Davis said that people who want to contact her about anything, including running for the LSB, should send her an E-mail. Copies of the packet to get on the ballot are available at the WBAI Web site. She then read the entire "Fair Campaign Pledge" and warned people not to test her.

When she was done I asked if we could ask questions, the Chair said no.

I'd wanted to ask how she'd make sure that all WBAI Staff would get the Fair Campaign Pledge forms to sign. In 2004, most WBAI Staff never got them. They were not put in Staff mailboxes and very few were left at the front desk. The majority of WBAI Staff never signed them in 2004, in fact by the time the 2004, deadline for candidates' registration came around only about 40 WBAI Staff out of 252 had signed the Fair Campaign Pledge. But, I wasn't allowed to ask this question.

The LSB set the date of its next publicly accessible meeting for Wednesday, September 13, 2006.

During the public Comment section of the meeting that faction sycophant who frequently denounces me at these meetings got up and gave an anti-Greg Guma speech, saying that there was a �fifth column� out to destroy WBAI. Well, if there is he's one of that fifth column's cheerleaders! He then said that Indra Hardat is doing a fine job! In the past he's denounced her. I guess he got new dictates from the faction he so loves. He ended up speaking twice during the public comment session.

We then came to the part of the meeting where we had to elect a LSB member to the Committee of Inclusion (COI). James Ross asked Ray LaForest, the Chair of that committee, how often the committee meets. That Chair didn't really answer the question. The reality is that the WBAI COI hasn't been meeting in the last year and a half!

The need for this election came about because one of the LSB members on the COI, Mitchel Cohen, had resigned from the WBAI LSB on July 10.

Nominated for this position were James Ross and Berta Silva. Silva was elected to the COI by a vote of 9 for her and 7 for Ross, so it's an all faction committee now.

At this point we were supposed to go to the Finance Committee report which included the LSB's first motion on the draft WBAI budget for FY07.

But suddenly faction members wanted to propose a new order of business, a motion that would set up a Town Hall meeting in September.

Well, the agenda had been set and the Chair knew that she didn't have the two thirds necessary to change it. She asked that we all just let this go on, it would be a fast motion. I called for the orders of the day. This meant that I was demanding that we adhere to the agenda.

A Town Hall meeting is a big deal. The LSB had voted to have one back in April, on pretty short notice. And we'd had to cancel that one due to it just not having been ready to go on time. For the faction to suggest that sliding a motion to have a Town Hall meeting off the bottom of the deck was a good idea is amazing. There would have been zero time for the LSB to consider this motion.

The Chair complained that the bylaws required that the LSB do two Town Hall meetings per year and we hadn't done one yet for 2006. I pointed out that the bylaws also required that we pass a budget and that the budget was not only important but it was on the agenda. We proceeded to the Finance Committee report.

Those of us who are on the Finance Committee knew about the draft budget details already, but many of the LSB members were seeing details of the budget for the first time. At least one faction member began to doze off during this part of the meeting.

So the Treasurer handed out the draft FY07 budget. He said that the money WBAI receives from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting was being reduced this year. And a number of us dove into the budget draft and asked questions.

In response to my question the Treasurer revealed that his previous projection of a $310,000 surplus for WBAI in FY07 was now reduced to $265,985. This also projects that WBAI won't have the one month reserve that Pacifica Management is requiring us to have. This projected surplus is wearing away rapidly.

The motion was made to pass this draft budget. I made an amendment to the motion that said that WBAI's goal would be to raise the projected $2,800,000 in listener donations in 85 days of on-air pitching. This is what we'd passed for FY06, and although we went over that and pitched for 92 days in FY06, I thought that we should set the goal again, just so we all keep in mind that excess pitching becomes counter productive.

James Ross pointed out that we'd pitched for 92 days in FY06, 89 days in FY05, 90 days in FY04 and in FY04 and FY05 we'd raised more money than we had in FY06.

My amendment was tabled by a vote of 8 to 6.

Two hours into the meeting the Chair asked the Vice Chair, Omowale Clay, to take over. When it came time to vote for the approval of the motion to pass the draft FY07 budget, with questions attached, he just had to play games with what hand people were allowed to raise.

After the vote I called for the orders of the day, and the Vice Chair declared the meeting adjourned. Adjournment occurred at 10:11 PM.

Here's the page showing the attendance at the LSB meetings.



The September 7th meeting. 

Part 1, 00:00 to 05:04, 5 minutes. 
   Public Comment 1. 
   Monroe and William. 

Part 2, 05:04 to 18:10, 13 minutes. 
   "Some Form of Evaluative Process?"
   "Uh, No!"

Part 3, 18:10 to end. 
   Public Comment 2, 10 minutes. 
   Monroe and then Paul DeRienzo
   "A dramatic handshake"

This was the meeting where the budget was approved.  We present three episodes, two public comment and one (Part 2) of the Minority trying to get Indra to answer just one question:  Was there any oversight or evaluation of the staff?  Finally Indra answers, almost inaudibly, at 17:38.  See Candidate's Statement on WBAI.org for further comments. 

In Part 3 at 23:04 to 26:16 Mr. DeRienzo describes his work at Manhattan Neighborhood Network (MNN), explains how the notoriety Mr. Lederer has given him has opened doors for him among Pacifica officials, and finally attempts to shake Mr. Lederer's hand (25:20 to 26:16). 

R. Paul Martin's comments on this meeting have not yet been posted.  They will be posted when available. 


MWS Productions.





The November 29th 2006 meeting. 
Induction of Robert Scott Adams into the fiery busom of internecine warfare-- 71 minutes:

We see him 17 minutes before he is introduced suffering and laughing through endless numerology about the agenda.  At the end (1:10:59) he is abraded by the redoubtable Monroe Litman, our Most Frequent Caller Extraordinare, for leaving before Monroe's commentary-- as if Monroe hasn't monopolized much of the discussion all along!-- but shoots back with a jibe about having to wait an hour before the meeting started.  In between much has gone on.  There is no applause when Adams leaves, not so much because anyone disliked him as because no one had the wit to punctuate the moment. 


The December 27th meeting was the first meeting with the new board, where the Insurgents gained three seats for an 11-13 minority (I sound like a sportswriter and indeed the Board conflicts are similar to a game of "Survivor").    The election of Board officers brought a near-riot outside the view of the camera, with vociferous and almost physical arguments over the observation of the ballot counting. 

The second conflict happened at the end of the meeting when the Incumbents tried to railroad through without debate a motion on a town meeting, a big and special favor the Insurgents were unwilling to grant because the new Board had shown no mercy towards their proposal for modest power sharing and bipartisanship among board officers.  A showdown ensued in which Chair Vajra Kilgour rose from her seat and walked over to Carolyn Birden and R. Paul Martin, and it almost came to blows.  The meeting dissolved in  disarray, tacitly accepting R. Paul's claim that it had been adjourned automatically by "special order."  

Recording from the where the new National Board members were elected, has not yet been posted.   I believe the delegation remained the same except that Insurgent Berthold Reimers replaced Insurgent Patty Heffley.  Much of the time was spent in acrimonious and detailed argument about the "threshold," the minimum number of votes a candidate must get under Single Replacement voting.  If the Insurgents prevail, there will be a tie for one of the National Board members. 

There were also contentious and acrimonious discussions about the tenure of Incumbent Ray Laforest and about the reading of the votes.